How can the penalties be improved?
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Profile of Ciaran Keaveny
Posted by:Ciaran Keaveny
5 years ago
Fining someone for growing something in their own property if they were unaware of its classification may be a bit steep. And I’m talking 1 or 2 not 10 or 20. Educating the public about the Plant Finder and the classification of species might be time better spent.
I do however believe that a nursery or grower found to be selling any Class 1 or Class 2 invasive species should be fined heavily. As a grower they should be acutely aware of what is on that list. And just because it’s called out on a design plant schedule doesn’t mean a landscaper should use it. As a landscape professional, they should say it is not supposed to be planted and request the designer find a substitute.
And as for items that grow up by natural distribution, when they are young, non horticulturally astute individuals may not recognise them, but as they mature you can and then the onus should be on the owner to remove them in line with the law.
Profile of EMMA LEITCH
Posted by:EMMA LEITCH
5 years ago
Here's a thought, might be too complicated: fines, if necessary, should be used to subsidize horticultural education for Bermudian students. We need more horticulturists, skilled landscapers (not slash-and-trash clear cutters), arborists, and botanists. Moreover, these are jobs that often appeal to students who have a lot to offer in terms of being hardworking problem-solvers, but aren't well suited to desk jobs. I know a lot of homeowners who'd like to do the right thing with their yards but spend a fortune on landscapers who whack the slow-growing ornamentals along with the weeds.
Profile of EMMA LEITCH
Posted by:EMMA LEITCH
5 years ago
As written, with the burden on property owners to self report, this law is making criminals of people for not being botanists. Before moving on to fines and imprisonment (which should not even be an authorized penalty), the government should offer an evaluation for any property owner who wants one. And an eradication team (or many) for hire at reasonable or even subsidized rates. Heavy equipment and trained arborists are both limited and expensive, and the nature of invasive species means that many people who have them on their land did not choose to, and may even have been battling them for years.
Profile of Wendell Hunt
Posted by:Wendell Hunt
5 years ago
@EMMA LEITCH I disagree. Considering the age we are in and how readily available information is, there is no excuse for not knowing that such laws or penalties are in place in your very own country. To argue for as you have done can show a lack of care when understanding the law of ones country. Almost as if people respect certain laws and disrespect the ones they disagree with. I’m sorry but I feel if there are laws in place then You need to adhere to them. Regardless of how u feel personally.
Profile of EMMA LEITCH
Posted by:EMMA LEITCH
5 years ago
@Wendell Hunt I totally agree that we all need to follow the laws in place. This is why I think that government should be very careful about passing ones that tend to criminalize behavior that people might not inherently understand as wrong (such as growing plants that are common in parks and along roadsides, or which have been sold at nurseries or planted by landscapers), at least without providing a service to help them understand what they are doing and why it is wrong. Ignorance (or dislike) of the law is not an excuse for law breaking, and that it why laws should generally be easy to understand and follow.
Profile of Michael Brangman
Posted by:Michael Brangman
5 years ago
@Wendell Hunt take it easy on the Koolaid
Profile of Michael Brangman
Posted by:Michael Brangman
5 years ago
@Wendell Hunt Casurina trees sprout up from seeds spread by birds. This law is a far overreach. Why does it resonate with you to make people criminals for growing any plant our government determines to be invasive? Everything besides a few native plants are invasive. Growing them should not be a crime.
Profile of Wendell Hunt
Posted by:Wendell Hunt
5 years ago
@Michael Brangman here we are being respectful In our conversation and here you come with some koolaid bs. Jog on mate, u don’t want none of this smoke.
Profile of Wendell Hunt
Posted by:Wendell Hunt
5 years ago
We need more people whom are not afraid to enforce the penalties associated with each crime.
Profile of Michael Brangman
Posted by:Michael Brangman
5 years ago
The penalties are excessive and imprisonment is also excessive.
Profile of D S
Posted by:D S
5 years ago
Whilst a fine is plausible, the amount is unjust. Also imprisonment is not the answer. Maybe a life time ban, name and picture be added to a database that is accessible by the necessary entities.
Profile of EMMA LEITCH
Posted by:EMMA LEITCH
5 years ago
@D S Agree! We should not be increasing the types of things people can lose their liberty for.
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