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What are your views on the proposed licence fees for the types of licences?

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What are your views on the proposed licence fees for the types of licences? For example, are they set too high or too low?

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Profile of Portia D
Posted by:Portia D
6 years ago
This legislation serves to further the marginalization of the groups most affected by the criminalization policies currently in place by governments with regard to Cannabis. Any legislation that does not restore this imbalance to those that have suffered the most hardship; seen parents incarcerated, criminalized, taken from homes or unable to travel as a result of these policies, is OFF THE MARK! The ultimate slap in the face is that the way this legislation is designed, those who have criminalized others for this plant, now stand to profit from it the most. Government, with all its historical contradictions as it relates to this plant, now want to to profit off of it from the small man who makes it profitable. I fully throw my voice and support around scrapping the entire legislation and creating one where legalization isn’t needed it required. Less red tape, remember. Allow people to DO FOR SELF! The earth is free and what grows from the earth is free. Its been said that money doesn't grow on trees - I beg to differ. Cannabis is not only the healing plant we all need, it can potentially create an economy that will allow us - the marginalized - to create a market for ourselves. This legislation seems like an attempt by the government to capitalize twice on a plant that should’ve never been criminalized to begin with. Do the right thing, classify Cannabis as the plant it is and allow the island to plant and reap as they wish. No governmental influence or participation is acceptable given the history between the government and its citizens as it relates to Cannabis.
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Firstly, I believe any person who wishes to grow cannabis purely for personal consumption should NOT require a license/fee. Secondly, the fee structure for importation and a retail license would appear to be somewhat reasonable. ie. $1000 and $8000 respectively. Thirdly, a high export license/fee would hinder exporters from competing on the world market. Finally, big thanks to this Government for it’s logical and progressive approach to addressing a long standing issue. I am thrilled and look forward to participating in the Cannabis Economy.
    I also feel it would make more sense to have an application fee at a nominal rate and then once approved you move on to license fees... those who do not get approval will have a small loss.. eg. A couple hundred ($300- $500)... monies of any magnitude ie. Thounsands of dollars should not even change hands until the application is approved.. what other industry requires payment upfront for licensing without approval? Does tcd require an individual to pay for the license before the individual or the vehicle has pass the test... why is this different..
      "Accessible economic benefits for individuals" I fully understand and support the government making this industry into a revenue source, however this can be done in ways that make market entry more accessable to all. The proposed license fees appear too high for most would-be entrepreneurs to afford upfront, especially considering the banks will be very reluctant to lend to startup companies in a new, recently-legalized industry. Could there be options for revenue generation that don't create such a large hurdle to entering the industry? Such as: (1) Fee + Tax: Applicant elects to pay a lower up-front fee, combined with a tax on sales. For example, if the fee was $5,000 and a tax of 15% of revenue was collected. This would still weed out (no pun intended) the less serious applicants, however wouldn't be a significant barrier to entry to the industry. The tax could be on a sliding scale to make this more fair, e.g. 0% on first $50k of sales, 5% on next $50k, etc. If the applicant's business is successful in the medium/long term, they could revert to paying the flat fee of $30k. (2) "Financing" / Payment Deferral: Applicant elects for a "financing" option of the fee. There would be an ability for applicants to defer payments so they could start earning whilst paying the fee. For example, having monthly payments, starting 6 months after the business was up and running. Yes, for businesses that fail, government will not collect this revenue, but this is risk-sharing with entrepreneurs to help them get started. (3) Refundable fee: Removing the non-refundable status of application fees - part 14(c)(1), or at least refund it at 75% for example. With the fee being non-refundable, this primarily means applications will only be received from individuals / companies that can not only afford $30k, but can afford to lose $30k before breaking ground. Given one of the government's stated intentions is for "accessible economic benefits for individuals", it would be wonderful to be able to see more individuals be able to participate in this new industry, not just those that can afford a large initial cash outlay.
        @Colin G James (disclaimer....I'm not coming at you in any way) I understand your point... but I feel it would make more sense to have an application fee at a nominal rate and then once approved you move on to license fees... those who do not get approval will have a small loss.. eg. A couple hundred ($300- $500)... monies of any magnitude ie. Thounsands of dollars should not even change hands until the application is approved.. what other industry requires payment upfront for licensing without approval? Does tcd require an individual to pay for the license before the individual or the vehicle pass the test... why is this different..
          @Colin G James (disclaimer....I'm not coming at you in any way) I understand your point... but I feel it would make more sense to have an application fee at a nominal rate and then once approved you move on to license fees... those who do not get approval will have a small loss.. eg. A couple hundred ($300- $500)... monies of any magnitude ie. Thounsands of dollars should not even change hands until the application is approved.. what other industry requires payment upfront for licensing without approval? Does tcd require an individual to pay for the license before the individual or the vehicle pass the test... why is this different..
            I opposethis proposed legislation
              • The appropriateness of the magnitude of fees included in the Bermuda Cannabis Act will largely depend on the regulatory framework. In Canada, the non-tax fees are broken down into two components: fixed application fees (standard processing licence is BMD $2422) and a variable Annual Regulatory Fee (set to 2.3% of cannabis revenue). Having a fixed annual licensing fee places a significant burden on small businesses and too little of a burden on large companies, despite larger companies often requiring more resources dedicated from regulating body for compliance inspections and amendments.
                GOOD DAY 😊 ALL CANNABIS IS MEDICINAL= STRAINS + POTENCIES. "HOW TO TURN SKEPTICS INTO BELIEVERS" " I HAD BEEN BRAINWASHED" - DR. LESTER GRINSPOON. PSYCHIATRIST, HARVARD MED SCHOOL PROFESSOR, AUTHOR, INTELLECTUAL LEADER/ADVOCATE FOR CANNABIS LEGALIZATION. DR. GRINSPOON ONCE STATED THAT "I HAD BEEN BRAINWASHED" - REFERRING TO CANNABIS. IN 1967 DR. GRINSPOON SET OUT TO RESEARCH THE PLANT TO CONVINCE HIS BEST BUD- ASTRONOMER CARL SEGAN - 'TO STOP SMOKING SO MUCH. " " I WAS CONVINCED THAT CANNABIS WAS A VERY HARMFUL DRUG." CONCERN TURNED INTO INSPIRATION WHEN HE CONCLUDED THAT WHAT HE THOUGHT HE KNEW ABOUT THE PLANT WAS LIES AND PROPAGANDA. IT WASN'T HARMFUL. QUITE THE OPPOSITE. AND ARRESTING FOLKS FOR WAS." THANKS TO DR. GRINSPOON DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IN SERVICE OF SCIENCE AND TRUTH! 🙏 IN 1971 DR. GRINSPOON PUBLISHED "MARIJUANA RECONSIDERED." THE LANDMARK "LEGALIZATION BIBLE" THAT MADE CASE FOR MARIJUANA'S LEGITIMATE VALUE. BEYOND STONER STEREOTYPES- INTO THE REALM OF SCIENCE.
                  License fees should be accessible and not too high. Import and export licences fees should be higher than the cost for cultivation licenses to encourage companies to grow cannabis in Bermuda and not heavily rely on foreign inputs. Cultivation licenses should be lower especially for personal home grow cultivation licenses
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                  First you need to eliminate this absurd and disturbing idea of taking people's money and keeping it if they dont qualify for the licenses.. as it is proposed will only infuriate those who need the opportunity.. so I pay 20,000 for manufacturing license and you have the right to deny my application and keep my money.. that will not go over well.. easier to have a small application fee than to rape someone's bank account for thousands of dollars only to tell them that they aren't eligible.. how can you even entertain such foolishness and skulduggery that would be hurting your own people..do better for your people PLP and OBA.. IT TIME TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THE AVERAGE BERMUDIAN...
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                  @Justin Bascome Well put.
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                  Profile of JS Walcott
                  Posted by:JS Walcott
                  6 years ago
                  It appears to a lot of Bermudians that pursuant to schedule 2 of the CANNABIS (LICENSING AND REGULATION) ACT 2020, this bill was designed as a mechanism to make the rich even richer and to keep the poor right where they are. This is due to the fact that the draft bill completely marginalizes the average Bermudian. These rates exclude the same people who were directly impacted by marijuana criminalization from the very same industry that is now being promoted. The average Bermudian does not have the funds to apply for the majority of these licenses and they are not only being displaced, but robbed of the equal opportunity which would allow them to thrive in this economy. Drug-policy reform—and, specifically, legalizing weed—is a critical tool for ending systemic racism, however if this draft bill fails to take the average Bermudian into consideration, the vast majority of the marijuana retail outlets —particularly the long established, well-capitalized, licensees - will not reflect the very people this government repeatedly stated that they aimed to protect. If the average black family has just one tenth the wealth of the average white family, this means the average black Bermudian will get to legally smoke marijuana, but the bulk of the estimated multi-million dollar marijuana revenue would go to white organizations instead of black entrepreneurs who made marijuana a multi-billion dollar enterprise prior and subsequent to its legalization. With this current draft bill, the real economic benefit of marijuana legalization will go to rich white people as the average Bermudians dreams continue to go up in smoke.
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                  @JS Walcott Not only that, but people who have been rabidly anti-herb, those who ruined others lives for an herb will be rushing to get to the head of the line to make money too. If we need regulation, one good one is to ban certain undesirable elements, specifically wealthy, ganjaphobic, opportunistic capitalists.
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